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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Mar 14, 2008 9:10am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Roadmap needed for a trip to the 90s

The post-Hornsby Grateful Dead are pretty much a closed book to me. I have one show from 92 (Las Vegas 5-31) and in all honesty it isn't one of my favourites. Beyond that 93, 94 and 95 are more or less uncharted territory. So, my question is this: where would you recommend I stop off if I wanted to do a bit of exploring in the further reaches of the Grateful Dead's lifespan? Do you seriously think it's worth making the trip at all?

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Poster: patourkid Date: Mar 14, 2008 9:23am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Roadmap needed for a trip to the 90s

Rob, while I know this is a blatant hijack ( sorry for that) and I am definitely not saying this show is a highlight from later years, (I would have a HARD time pointing the direction to an even half decent show from that era) if any one has a sbd from Three rivers 95' I would be much obliged!!!
Again Rob sorry for the hijack!!!

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Poster: patkelley Date: Mar 14, 2008 10:07am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Roadmap needed for a trip to the 90s

I've been looking for a SBD of that show for almost 13 years now, and I don't think that one even exists, let alone circulates. I think that it was actually a pretty great show for 95.

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Poster: sparky999255 Date: Mar 14, 2008 12:54pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Roadmap needed for a trip to the 90s

You are correct a sbd of this show doesn't currently circulate. There are 3 audience sources currently in circulation:

http://db.etree.org/shnlist.php?artist=2&year=1995

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Poster: fireeagle Date: Mar 14, 2008 9:41am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Roadmap needed for a trip to the 90s

no idea wordsmith

same thing here. theres nothing i like after 92-05-31. i listened to some post 92 shows but was totally unimpressed, so i gave up trying. its 68 > 91 for me (minus 84 > 86)

dont think anybody can show you the way for that era, coz there is no clear road. smr? it can only make u wanna cry.........and only pussies cry

dig? better move right back in time

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Mar 14, 2008 10:49am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Roadmap needed for a trip to the 90s

its 68 > 91 for me (minus 84 > 86)

You hit the nail on the head for me fireeagle

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Mar 14, 2008 11:29am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Roadmap needed for a trip to the 90s

Rob,

By and large I agree with your assessment and see no reason to overly recommend these years but hey, being the best band ever they could still inspire even in the shittiest of years.

I like 2-21-95 a LOT, especially set I

I like 3-27-93, especially the audience with the crowd singing word for word a spirited Casey Jones

I listened to a cool let it grow and spanish jam for 3-24-93 awhile back that's pretty cool

I like the giants stadium show from 92

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Poster: high flow Date: Mar 14, 2008 11:53am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Roadmap needed for a trip to the 90s

http://www.archive.org/details/gd93-08-21.sbd.nawrocki.15035.sbeok.shnf

P.S. - Thanks for the compliment yesterday. Coming from you, it's a honor, Rob.:)

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Poster: William Tell Date: Mar 14, 2008 5:24pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Roadmap needed for a trip to the 90s

He meant me...you were just a vehicle to get to my compliment, I am sure. Why, I would barely think you rate an assist. A steal, perhaps.

Remember, besides heavy lifting, you have to stay in shape for the numerous pickup games that will occupy our time on the road with the Anal Retentives hit the trail.

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Poster: northstar dead Date: Mar 14, 2008 11:00am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Roadmap needed for a trip to the 90s

There are numerous good and some great shows in the 90-92 range. I did not really keep up after that.

Ok, I have talked about this one once or twice, but it is well worth it. Give it a try

Palace of Auburn Hills
http://www.archive.org/details/gd92-03-23.sbd.zei.541.sbeok.shnf

This post was modified by northstar dead on 2008-03-14 18:00:49

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Poster: swamprabbit Date: Mar 14, 2008 3:29pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Roadmap needed for a trip to the 90s

I actually enjoy many shows from this era (as I do every era of Dead). My advice is to listen to these shows with an open mind. If you go in expecting a '77 barnburner you will be disappointed. Relax, chill out and let yourself get into the groove. Try not to notice what is so different from the years you enjoy - just take it for what it is. You may want to start with my favorites from the years you mentioned.

1993: 5/16/93 - Las Vegas (tight but short 1st set and monumental second set. Sure Vince is a bit over the top in places but listen to Garcia on tunes like Althea, Franklin's, Looks Like Rain. Hell - every single song in this show is great - even the Elvis space!)

1994: 10/1/94 (as many have pointed out - this may be the boys last truly epic show. Every song is performed as if it were the last time they would every play it. Others in this post have stated that these years will make you cry. They are right - just play So Many Roads from this show - Garcia's vocals will send shivers up your spine and send you running for the tissues. If that makes me a pussy - oh well. I always kind of like pussies myself!)

1995: A mixed bag here. I would probably go with 3/23/95 or 6/30/95 as my top picks. However, I always felt that 3/23/95 had a weak first set (jamming Scarlet/Fire though!). 6/30/95 is more consistent throughtout and probably the last show played by the band that was good from start to finish. I too would love to have a soundboard of this show.

Many others to choose from. This should provide a good start. Also pay attention to reviews and postings from Stratocastor - a good judge of the era in my opinion.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Mar 14, 2008 5:25pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Roadmap needed for a trip to the 90s

I know diddly (?) about the 90s, but would trust Start too...good call, Syllivagus.

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Mar 14, 2008 9:33am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Roadmap needed for a trip to the 90s

I thouroughly enjoyed the 91 fall runs at MSG and Boston Garden, both in person and listening to later on. Well played and with as much energy as could be expected from the old man. Couldn't hurt to start around there. For late Brent in 1990, I would go to Knicerbocker Arena in the late winter of '90. Any of those shows are outstanding.

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Mar 14, 2008 10:04am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Roadmap needed for a trip to the 90s

I'm already in possession of September 91 Boston and NY shows and so fully in a position to recognise how sound your recommendations are. It's really 93-95 that I need help on - am I right in my sneaking suspicion that those aren't most people's favourite years?

Did you mean the March 90 Dozin at the Knick shows? Love them too!

This post was modified by robthewordsmith on 2008-03-14 17:04:40

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Poster: patkelley Date: Mar 14, 2008 10:05am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Roadmap needed for a trip to the 90s

Sneaking suspicion?? How long have you been posting here?

You might start with a nice 93- Buckeye Lake Music Center

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Poster: craven714 Date: Mar 14, 2008 11:28am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Roadmap needed for a trip to the 90s

http://www.archive.org/details/gd93-06-11.sbd.gans.19217.sbeok.shnf

buckeye lake show

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Poster: patkelley Date: Mar 14, 2008 12:18pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Roadmap needed for a trip to the 90s

thanks for posting. I probably should have done that myself.

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Poster: craven714 Date: Mar 14, 2008 11:18am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Roadmap needed for a trip to the 90s

sorry for no links, there's just too many to list:

1993:

3-24-93
3-25-93
3-29-93 (80% of it is good)
4-1-93 (set 1)
4-4-93 (set 2)

EDIT-- 5-26-93 (ooops)

5-27-93
6-9-93
6-15-93 (all except Dough Knees)
8-22-93 (set 2 esp. corinna thru days between)
8-26-93 (set 2)
8-27-93 (playing thru days between)
9-12-93
9-13-93 (set 2)
9-20-93 (set 2)
9-22-93
12-12-93 (set 1 & shakedown)


1994 (exit Healy, enter Cutler and Jerrys "new" sound):

3-21-94 (all except gr8est story)
3-30-94 (set 2)
4-4-94 (set 1 + days between)
6-19-94 (set 2)
7-2-94 (the 1st 3 songs of set 1 and set 2)
9-16-94
10-11-94 (Jerry's jam w/ drummers after He's Gone)


1995:

2-21-95
3-23-95 (set 2 and so many roads)
3-30-95 (80% is good...must pick through)
4-2-95 (set 2 minus Eternity, and the Unbroken
Chain is not the best either)
4-7-95 ( set 2 )

6-2-95 (a personal fav. not the best but enjoyable
up until Captain Bobby Buzzkill and the Bringdowns play
Cheezy Answers out of the Gyoto Monks & Space. But Jerrys antidote is a fabulous SOTM).

6-28-95 (set 1 and most of 2)

I hope this helps

I will let the list and the shows speak for themselveselves

This post was modified by craven714 on 2008-03-14 18:18:44

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Mar 14, 2008 10:06am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Roadmap needed for a trip to the 90s

My last show was in 94 and I have no interest in revisiting those last few years.


But that's just me.

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Poster: mclurkin Date: Mar 14, 2008 10:03am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Roadmap needed for a trip to the 90s

5/26/93

Nice soundboard on this site. I rarely listen to post-Brent Dead, but when I do it's March 93. The Playing in the Band is like something from the 70s. For reals.

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Poster: mclurkin Date: Mar 14, 2008 10:08am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Roadmap needed for a trip to the 90s

Or maybe it was May. Sorry, it was a really fun month and I get confused sometimes.

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Poster: lobster12 Date: Mar 14, 2008 2:32pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Roadmap needed for a trip to the 90s

Honestly, the night to night magic is not there from 92 on. You have to search but there is some gold in those hills. I'd never tell anyone to stop at a certain point. That's the point of the site. Trial and error. Also, 92-95 gave us lots of technology and gizmos from the band. personally, I didn't like much of it but some folks do. A safe bet would be the Branford show from 94. Not the best of his gigs but there is some stuff that reminds you the boys could still do it.

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Poster: JamminJerome Date: Mar 14, 2008 8:59pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Roadmap needed for a trip to the 90s

Hey rob, I'll give you a few suggestions, but as many have posted here, the gems are few and far between. The moments of greatness come in moments, not in shows. It's like the spirit is still there but it just can't sustain a show.

check out:

6/14/92
1/24/93 (Black Peter!)
3/27/93
8/22/93
3/30/94
8/1/94
10/5/94
2/21/95
3/17/95

and for special consideration I nominate 9/24/94, which can be found under Phil and Friends. It's phil, bobby, jerry, and vince acoustic. It's beautiful.

have fun with 92-95. There's still a lot of good stuff there, but just don't expect your face to be melted.

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Poster: fireeagle Date: Mar 15, 2008 12:36am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Roadmap needed for a trip to the 90s

no face melting = wasted time

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Poster: Jerrob Hungar Date: Mar 14, 2008 10:41am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Roadmap needed for a trip to the 90s

Rob
You could probably do worse than check out these shows, recommended by the Music Archive. Is it worth the trip? For me, yes. For you, I don't know.

Sorry I haven't posted up the links but my brain is beginning to hurt and its time for tea!

92-6-25 - Soldier Field with Steve Miller James Cotton
92-12-16 - Oakland Coliseum

93-2-23 - Oakland Coliseum with Ornette
93-9-13 - Spectrum, PA
93-9-22 - MSG with David Murray and James Cotton
93-12-9 - Sports Arena, Los Angeles with Ornette again
93-12-10 - Sports Arena, Los Angeles with Branford

94-6-19 - Autzen Stadium, Eugene, Oregon
94-12-16 - Sports Arena, Los Angeles
94-6-13 - Seattle Memorial Stadium

95-2-21 - Salt Lake City
95-3-23 - Charlotte with Bruce


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